The Victor Victrola VV IV -A and VV IV -
The VV IV - Is a tabletop model sold between 1911-1926. This page is dedicated to the study of this phonograph. I welcome new information and corrections! My email is Stop in again soon! For the rest of the museum of sound click here |
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Victrola is a machine with a built-in, hidden horn made by the
Victor Company. Machines made by Victor with external horns should be
called Victor Talking Machines. Models and dates: V-V
on the Victrola plate Victor Victrola - inside horn VV-IV Lidless Table-Top Model The IV was Victor's lowest priced model for many years. Production was started in September of 1911. Full production was discontinued in early 1924; however VV-IV's were still being assembled and shipped in low volumes as late as the spring of 1926. Catalogs state that the only available finish was oak, although several mahogany examples have apparently turned up in the hands of collectors; these were made near the end of the model run. Very early VV-IV's had a stamped steel grille covering the horn; subsequent versions had conventional wood slats in the horn opening. In 1917, the slats were again removed, revealing a hollow horn opening. Apparently, this was not a popular cost-cutting move, and the slats re-appeared the following year. Several design changes were made during production of this Victrola, as indicated by the change of suffix letter after the serial number. Most changes were of a very minor nature. The IV used a simple single-spring motor. The original 1911 selling price of the IV was $15.00. At the end of the model run, it sold new for $25.00. An estimated total of 608,000 Victrola IV's were produced. The current collector database shows the earliest existent VV-IV to be S/N 887 and the latest to be S/N 603071.
* Note: the "A" designator after the model indicates a revised motor design. The A was later dropped from the dataplate, but the improved motor remained -Source http://www.victor-victrola.com/IV.htm
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Activity How long does it take to learn how to play a musical instrument such as a piano to the level at which one can play popular songs well? How long does it take to learn how to read sheet music so that one can sing a popular song well? In the 1912 economy how long would it take you to work to afford a Victor record player and one record? How much did needles cost in 1912? What would happen if you dropped a cd? What would happen if you dropped a shellac 78 disk?
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Songs Popular
when the Victor Machine Came out- 1912 Popular Recordings Works Published in the Year "Alexander's Bag-Pipe Band" w.m. Irving Berlin "All Night Long" w.m. Shelton Brooks "And The Green Grass Grew All Around" w. William Jerome "At The Devil's Ball" w.m. Irving Berlin "Bagdad" w. Anne Caldwell "Be My Little Baby Bumble Bee" w. Stanley Murphy m. Henry I. Marshall "Beans! Beans!! Beans!!!" w. Elmer Bowman m. Chris Smith "Becky's Got A Job In A Musical Show" w.m. Irving Berlin "Come Back To Me, My Melody" Irving Berlin, Ted Snyder "Come Back To Playland With Me" w.m. Maude Lambert "Cuddle Up And Cling To Me" w. Stanley Murphy m. Henry L. Marshall "Daddy Has A Sweetheart (And Mother Is Her Name)" w. Gene Buck m. Dave Stamper " A Dinder Courtship" w. Fred E. Weatherly m. Eric Coates "Do It Again" w.m. Irving Berlin "Down In Dear Old New Orleans" w. Joe Young m. Conrad & Whidden "Dreams Of Long Ago" w. Earl Carroll m. Enrico Caruso "The Elevator Man Going Up, Going Up, Going Up, Going Up!" w.m. Irving Berlin "Everybody Loves A Chicken" w.m. Bobby Jones "Everybody Two-Step" w. Earl C. Jones m. Wallie Herzer "Florida Rag" V. Lowry "The Funny Little Melody" w.m. Irving Berlin "Giannina Mia" w. Otto Harbach m. Rudolf Friml "Goodnight, Nurse" w. Thomas J. Gray m. W. Raymond Walker "He Played It On His Fid, Fid, Fiddle-dee-dee" w.m.Ray Goetz & Irving Berlin "Hitchy-Koo" w. L. Wolfe Gilbert m. Lewis F. Muir & Maurice Abrahams "I'm Afraid, Pretty Maid, I'm Afraid" w.m. Irving Berlin "I'm The Lonesomest Gal In Town" w. Lew Brown m. Albert Von Tilzer "In My Harem" w.m. Irving Berlin "In The Garden" w.m. C. Austin Miles "It's A Long Way To Tipperary" w.m. Jack Judge & Harry H. Williams "Keep Away From The Fellow Who Owns An Automobile" w.m. Irving Berlin "Kentucky Sue" by Lew Brown "The Land Of Golden Dreams" w. C. M. Denison m. E. F. Dusenberry "Last Night Was The End Of The World" w. Andrew B. Sterling m. Harry Von Tilzer "The Last Shot Got Him" w.m. Cecil Mack & Cecil Smith "Lead Me To That Beautiful Band" w. E. Ray Goetz m. Irving Berlin from the musical theater production 'Cohan And Harris Minstrels' "A Little Love, A Little Kiss" w. (Fr) Nilson Fysher (Eng) Adrian Ross m. Leo Silesu "Love Is Like A Firefly" w. Otto Harbach m. Rudolf Friml "Melody" m. Charles Gates Dawes "The Memphis Blues" w. George A. Norton m. William Christopher Handy "The Million Dollar Ball" Irving Berlin, E. Ray Goetz "My Melancholy Baby" w. George A. Norton m. Ernie Burnett "On A Beautiful Night With A Beautiful Girl" w. Will D. Cobb m. Gus Edwards "On The Mississippi" w. Ballard MacDonald m. Harry Carroll & Arthur Fields "Parisienne" w. Lew Brown m. Albert Von Tilzer "Pick, Pick, Pick Pick On The Mandolin, Antonio" w.m. Irving Berlin "Ragging The Baby To Sleep" w. L. Wolfe Gilbert m. Lewis F. Muir "Ragtime Cowboy Joe" w. Grant Clarke m. Lewis F. Muir & Maurice Abrahams "The Ragtime Drummer" James I. Lent "The Ragtime Jockey Man" w.m. Irving Berlin "Ragtime Mocking Bird" w.m. Irving Berlin "Ragtime Soldier Man" w.m. Irving Berlin "Roll Dem Roly Boly Eyes" w.m. Eddie Leonard "The Rose Of Tralee" w. C. Mordaunt Spencer m. Charles W. Glover "Row Row Row" w. William Jerome m. James V. Monaco "She Pushed Me Into The Parlour" w. Alf Ellerton m. Will Mayne "Slippery Elm Rag" m. Clarence Woods "Sly Musette" w. Sydney Rosenfeld m. A. Baldwin Sloane "The Society Bear" w.m. Irving Berlin "Some Boy" w. Gene Buck m. Dave Stamper "Somebody's Coming To Town From Dixie" w. Raymond A. Browne m. Henry Clay Smith "The Sweetheart Of Sigma Chi" w. Byron D. Stokes m. F. Dudleigh Vernor "Sympathy" w. Otto Harbach m. Rudolf Friml "Take A Little Tip From Father" Irving Berlin, Ted Snyder "Take Me Back" w.m. Irving Berlin "Take Me To That Swanee Shore" w. L. Wolfe Gilbert m. Lewis F. Muir "Take Me To The Cabaret" w.m. Will Dillon "Teasing Moon" w. Stanley Murphy m. Henry Marshall "That Dixie Dip Rag" m. Dippy Dip "That Eccentric Rag" m. J. Russel Robinson "That Kentucky Rag" w. Boyle Woolfolk m. Hampton Durand "That Old Girl Of Mine" w. Earle C. Jones m. Egbert van Alstyne "That Syncopated Boogie Boo" w. Sam M. Lewis m. George W. Meyer "That's How I Need You" w. Joe McCarthy & Joe Goodwin m. Al Piantadosi "There's One In A Million Like You" w. Grant Clarke m. Jean Schwartz "Waiting For The Robert E. Lee" w. L. Wolfe Gilbert m. Lewis F. Muir "'Way Down South" w.m. George Fairman "The Wedding Glide" w.m. Louis Hirsch "A Wee Hoose 'Mang The Heather" w.m Gilbert Wells, Fred Elton & Harry Lauder "When I Get You Alone Tonight" w.m. Joseph McCarthy, Joe Goodwin & Fred Fisher "When I Lost You" w.m. Irving Berlin "When Irish Eyes Are Smiling" w. Chauncey Olcott & George Graff Jr m. Ernest R. Ball "When It's Apple Blossom Time In Normandy" w.m Harry Gifford, Huntley Trevor & Tom Mellor "When The Midnight Choo-Choo Leaves For Alabam" w.m. Irving Berlin "When Uncle Joe Plays A Rag On His Old Banjo" w.m. Theodore F. Morse "Yiddisha Professor" w.m. Irving Berlin "You're My Baby" w. A Seymour Brown m. Nat D. Ayer
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James N. Weber: The Talking Machine: The Advertising History of the Berliner Gramophone and Victor Talking Machine A Big Book about Phonographs-. 244 pages, spiral binding, Subtitle "Original Articles & Rare Talking Machine Robert W. Baumbach: Look for the Dog: The Victor Talking Machine Companion Published by Mulholland Press, Los Angeles, California. Popular American Recording Pioneers, 1895-1925. Haworth Publishing, Inc. Robert W. Baumbach: The Victor Data Book. Published by Mulholland Press, Los Angeles, California. Eric L. Reiss: The Compleat Talking Machine Published by Sonoran Publishing, Chandler, Arizona. Walter L. Welch and Leah Brodbeck Stenzel Burt: From Tinfoil to Stereo Published by the University Press of Florida (1994 edition).
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